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Submitted by tony greenstein (not verified) on Sat, 05/06/2021 - 05:35

Israel was not formed by Jews from the Holocaust.  That is simply a lie and for a so-called Trotskyist organisation to peddle that lie is disgraceful.

In the late 1940s and early 1950’s the Holocaust was barely mentioned in Israel.  In a 220 page history text book published in 1948, just one page was devoted to the Holocaust compared to 10 pages on the Napoleonic wars.[1]  The survivors were considered an embarrassment and Israelis described them as sapon (soap).[2]  Hanzi Brand wrote of how, when she settled on Kibbutz Gvata Haim, the other members ‘talked about their war to avoid hearing about hers.  They were ashamed of the Holocaust.’ [3]  Amos Elon describes how Zionism’s national poet, Hayyim Nahman Bialik, spoke of the ‘disgraceful shame and cowardice’ of the Jewish victims of the 1903 Kishinev pogrom. [4]   

National self-determination applies to nations. Israeli Jews are not a nation NOR DO THEY CLAIM TO BE.  Zionist folklore describes Israeli Jews as part of the overall Jewish nation. In any event self determination applies to the oppressed not oppressor - simple logic.

Nor is there anything anti-Semitic about comparing Israel's actions to the Nazis.  It might be exaggerated or unfair but it's not antisemitic.  Numerous holocaust survivors, Ze'ev Sternhell, Yehuda Elkana, Hajo Meyer etc. have done just that.  Are you calling them antisemitic?  If so you are a bunch of racists.

When Israeli Jews march to the chant of 'Death to the Jews' the exact slogan of anti-semites in the 30s the parallels are close between Israel today and Nazi Germany in the pre-holocaust era.

But I notice you don't comment on the real racism which was on the pro-Israeli demonstration. Not only did Tommy Robinson turn up to a hero's welcome but there was chanting, in Hebrew of the 2nd most popular slogan of Israeli racists.  'May your villages burn'.  Something the settlers are trying to bring about.

Your covering for this racism is disgusting.  AWL have left the left.  You are hand in glove with the Labour Right and the Tories in using the smear of 'antisemitism' to attack the Palestinians.  Those of us who are Jewish know who the real anti-Semites are and ironically it is people like you who believe that all Jews in the diaspora are Zionists


[1]           Edith Zertal, p.94, Israel’s Holocaust and the Politics of Nationhood, Cambridge University Press, 2011.

[2]           Tom Segev, The Seventh Million.  Based on the widespread myth that the Nazis used the fat from those murdered to produce soap.  No evidence of this has ever materialised.  See also Amos Elon, The Israelis-Founders and Sons, Weidenfeld, 1971. p. 209.

[3]           Segev, p. 471.

[4]           Amos Elon, Israel: Founders & Sons, p. 209, Weidenfeld, 1971.

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