The ideas Lenin was arguing against in "The Discussion on Self-Determination Summed Up"

Submitted by martin on 7 March, 2018 - 7:33 Author: Yuri Pyatakov, Yevgeniya Bosh, and Nikolai Bukharin

These are the theses of the section of the Bolshevik Party which during World War 1 came out against "the right of nations to self-determination", and which Lenin argued against in "The Discussion on Self-Determination Summed Up" https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jul/x01.htm#bkV22E100 and "A Caricature of Marxism and Imperialist Economism", https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/carimarx/

1. The imperialist epoch is a period of the absorption of small states by large states and of a constant redrawing of the political map of the world toward greater state homogeneity. In this process of absorption many nations are incorporated into the state system of the victorious nations.

2. Modern capitalist foreign policy is closely bound up with the supremacy of finance capital, which cannot abandon the policy of im¬perialism without threatening its own existence. Therefore, it would be extremely Utopian to advance anti-imperialist demands in the field of foreign policy while remaining within the framework of capitalist relations.

The answer to the bourgeoisie’s imperialist policy must be the socialist revolution of the proletariat; Social Democracy must not advance minimum demands in the field of present-day foreign policy.3. It is therefore impossible to struggle against the enslavement of nations other than through a struggle against imperialism. Ergo a struggle against imperialism; ergo a struggle against finance capital; ergo a strug¬gle against capitalism in general. To turn aside from this path in any way and advance “partial” tasks of the “liberation of nations” within the limits of capitalist society diverts proletarian forces from the true solu¬tion of the problem and unites them with the forces of the bourgeoisie of the corresponding national groups.

4. The slogan “self-determination of nations” is first of all Utopian, as it cannot be realized within the limits of capitalism. It is also harmful, as it is a slogan that sows illusions. In this respect it does not distinguish itself at all from the slogans of arbitration courts, disarmament, and so on which presuppose the possibility of so-called peaceful capitalism.

5. We should not get carried away by the agitational side of the question and forget its connection to other questions. Advancing the slogan of “self-determination” in order to struggle against “the chauvinism of the working masses” would be making exactly the same kind of error as Kautsky does, when he advances the slogan of “disarmament” for the struggle against militarism. In both cases the error lies in a one-sided examination of the question. It overlooks the specific gravity of a given “social evil”; in other words, it examines the question from an entirely rational and Utopian standpoint and not from the standpoint of revolutionary dialectics.

6. The major cases of a concrete application of the slogan of “the right of nations to self-determination” through state independence or secession are, first, the annexation of “foreign” territory in the course of an imperialist war, and second, the disintegration of an already formed state unit. In the first case the slogan of “self-determination” is only a different form of the slogan “defence of the fatherland,” because unless an appeal is made for physical defence of the corresponding state boundaries, the “slogan” remains an empty phrase. In the second case we have essentially the same harmful consequences as with the slogan “defence of the fatherland.”

The attention of the proletarian masses is shifted to another plane; the international character of their action disappears; the forces of the proletariat are split up; the entire tactical line moves in the direction of national and not class struggle. Moreover, in this case the slogan also implicite [implicitly] includes the slogan of “defence,” for after the achievement of secession, and the slogan of “the right to self-determination” of course presupposes such a possibility, is it not necessary to defend “independence”? Otherwise, what with the constant dangers of the imperialist epoch, why “demand” it at all?

To struggle against the chauvinism of the working masses of a nation which is a great power by recognizing “the right of nations to self-deter¬mination” is the same as to struggle against this chauvinism by recogniz¬ing the right of the oppressed “fatherland” to defend itself.

7. Diversion of the proletariat’s attention toward the solution of “national” problems becomes extraordinarily harmful, especially now, when the question of mobilizing the proletariat’s forces on a world scale, in international struggle to overthrow capitalism, has been posed for action. The task of Social Democracy at the present moment is propaganda for an attitude of indifference to “the fatherland,” “the nation,” and so on. This by no means presupposes a “state” formulation of the question (protests against “dismemberment”), but, on the contrary, poses it in a sharply pronounced revolutionary way with regard to state power and the entire capitalist system.

8. Therefore it follows that in no case and under no circumstances do we support the government of a great power that represses the insurrection or rebellion of an oppressed nation. At the same time, we do not mobilize proletarian forces under the slogan of “the right of nations to self-determination.” Our task in this case is to mobilize the forces of the proletariat of both nations (jointly with others) under the slogan of civil, class war for socialism and to propagandize against mobilization of forces under the slogan of “the right of nations to self-determination.”

9. In the case of non-capitalist countries or countries with an embryonic capitalism (for example, colonies), we can support the uprising of the popular masses as something that weakens the ruling classes on the European continent and that does not split the proletarian forces. This is so because, in this case (a) it is not a question of socialism; and (b) the forces mobilized here are not those of the international proletariat, but the national forces of the bourgeoisie, which objectively help the proletariat of the European continent.

10. Furthermore, the slogan of “the right to self-determination” does not concretely answer the question concerning a given nation.

11. An essential identity (“aid to imperialism”) does not flow from a formal similarity between the position developed in these theses and the position of Cunow und Konsorten [and company]. To base an objection on “aid” in this case means to go down the road paved by Kautsky.

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Submitted by martin on Wed, 07/03/2018 - 19:48

And here is a short sympathetic summary of the other major viewpoint within the pre-1914 Marxist movement, counterposed both to the Bukharin-Pyatakov-Bosh group and their Polish co-thinkers, and to Lenin and the majority of that movement - namely, the view argued by Otto Bauer and the "Austro-Marxists".

http://www.workersliberty.org/system/files/ottobauer.pdf

Submitted by martin on Wed, 07/03/2018 - 19:48

And here is a short sympathetic summary of the other major viewpoint within the pre-1914 Marxist movement, counterposed both to the Bukharin-Pyatakov-Bosh group and their Polish co-thinkers, and to Lenin and the majority of that movement - namely, the view argued by Otto Bauer and the "Austro-Marxists".

http://www.workersliberty.org/system/files/ottobauer.pdf

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